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Asus P5QL-E mainboard is packed into a small glossy box bearing numerous logos of supported technologies:
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[فقط کاربران سایت قادر به دیدن لینک ها هستند. برای عضویت کلیک کنید...] By replacing a traditional CD disk with a DVD disk allows to include not only the drivers but also the whole bunch of different applications and utilities. The autorun startup window has barely changed. The interface allows installing device drivers and applications, creating floppies with RAID drivers, checking the electronic version of the user manual, getting hold of technical support team.![]() ![]()
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Our initial goal was to find a worthy rival to Intel P45 Express among iP43 based solutions, so we had to make sure that all potential candidates have ATX form-factor. Then we narrowed down out selection using numerous criteria, such as South Bridge with RAID support, 8-pin ATX12V power connector, additional controllers and external connectors. The idea was to find a mainboard that wouldn’t be any different from an average iP45 based solution, except for the missing second PCI Express x16 slot, of course. As a result, Asus P5QL-E turned out the only model that met all these requirements. Although later on we found out that still not quite all of them were in fact met.
The current ATX 2.2 standard includes the whole bunch of technical specifications for mainboards. Namely, it should be 12” long by 9.6” wide or 305 x 244 mm. However, Asus P5QL-E turned out 20 mm narrower. Lack of free space on the PCB and the need to accommodate a lot of additional controllers could have forced the engineers to place a 24-pin power connector in the center of the board: [فقط کاربران سایت قادر به دیدن لینک ها هستند. برای عضویت کلیک کنید...] While we were investigating this matter, we found out that mainboard makers refer to the required length of the PCB when they speak of complying with ATX form-factor standards. As a result, you can buy 305mm mainboards that will be 244mm, 224mm, 210mm or even 193mm wide. However, all of them will be considered ATX models, because this standard implies that the connectors are close to the storage device chassis. But we don’t have a choice and we will continue with our Asus P5QL-E mainboard. Now let’s take a closer look at the upper part of its PCB:[فقط کاربران سایت قادر به دیدن لینک ها هستند. برای عضویت کلیک کنید...] Besides the already mentioned inconvenient location of the 24-pin power connector, there is nothing we could really complain about in the upper part of the PCB. Probably the capacitors placed too close to the processor socket could prevent you from installing any specific cooling solutions with broad base plate. For example popular Scythe coolers that use universal VTMS retention system (Versatile Tool-Free Multiplatform System). Moreover, the pins from these capacitors hanging off the bottom of the PCB may make it difficult to fasten the cooler backplate, like the one we use with our Zalman CNPS9700 LED cooler.[فقط کاربران سایت قادر به دیدن لینک ها هستند. برای عضویت کلیک کنید...] As for the advantages, we should definitely mention 8-phase processor voltage regulator circuitry. Mainboards of this class usually have maximum four phases in this circuitry. Besides, they used low-resistance MOSFET transistors that allowed lower heat dissipation and power consumption even more. Asus used only solid-state capacitors with polymer electrolyte in the processor voltage regulator circuitry as well as on the rest of the mainboard.The chipset North and South Bridges are topped with very uniquely shaped heatsinks. They work perfectly well when the system is operating in nominal mode, however during overclocking the North Bridge heatsink becomes scarily hot. You have to get some additional cooling for it, but how could you securely attach a fan to a heatsink of such beautiful but complex shape? ![]() ![]() [فقط کاربران سایت قادر به دیدن لینک ها هستند. برای عضویت کلیک کنید...] At first we were curious about the LSI L-FW3227-100 controller that we haven’t yet come across before. It provided FireWire support. However, soon we found out that in 2007 Agere Systems Company was acquired by LSI, so this controller is none other but an analogue of a well-known dual-port IEEE1394A Agere FW322 controller, which we have already seen many times on mainboards from different vendors. Strange things do not end up here, though. Asus P5QL-E uses an eight-channel Realtek ALC1200 for the sound codec, but there was no info about it anywhere on Realtek web-site. The story of the gigabit Atheros AR8121-AL1E controller is also pretty mysterious. We only managed to fine a one year old press release on Atheros official web-site that told about the launch of an ultra-compact chip (48 pins at only 36 mm² size). At that time it was supposed to go into notebooks due to small geometrical dimensions and power-efficiency.![]() [فقط کاربران سایت قادر به دیدن لینک ها هستند. برای عضویت کلیک کنید...] 2cm narrower PCB may actually result in huge savings during mass production, but in the end the user winds up with a board that cannot boast the best components layout. This is where most layout drawbacks actually come from. The lack of free space on the PCB, however, cannot explain the use of non-traditional controllers. Windows users have nothing to worry about, but you may encounter problems trying to find drivers for alternative operating systems such as Linux, for instance.However, despite smaller dimensions engineers managed to equip Asus P5QL-E mainboard with a full range of contemporary features, including those implemented by additional controllers. Just take a look at the detailed list of its specifications and see for yourselves: ![]()
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Asus mainboards use BIOS based on AMI micro-code. The first page looks the same on Asus boards of all types:
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Next we see subsection dealing with voltage adjustment. The supported intervals and increments are the following:
![]() ![]() Load-Line Calibration parameter will allow overclocking fans to avoid modifying processor voltage regulator system called VDroop mod. When the processor workload increases and so does the corresponding power consumption, processor voltage drops. However, voltage drop causes system instability and overclockers have to increase processor Vcore in advance, to limit their overclocking, or to perform a special modification that will keep the voltage at a certain preset rate. Asus P5QL-E owners will not need to do it, because they can lock this voltage by setting Load-Line Calibration to Enabled. Finally, fine tuning of the Ai Tweaker parameter called CPU GTL Reference may be very helpful during quad-core processor overclocking. The next section called Advanced includes a number of sub-sections: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Power section is pretty common:
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There are a lot of pretty interesting aspects that we could discuss within the chapter devoted to practical use of Asus P5QL-E mainboard. For example, it would be nice to check out the bundled software or at least Asus branded utilities. We could say quite a bit about power consumption and power-saving technologies. Here everything looks not as rosy as in the promotional commercials. However, we don’t want to lose your interest because the article is too long, so we have decided to set those things aside until the next time. Today we are going to take a quick look at Asus Express Gate technology.
Asus Express Gate Asus Express Gate is a small operating system, namely, it is special interface for launching preinstalled applications. It is built on Linux-based [فقط کاربران سایت قادر به دیدن لینک ها هستند. برای عضویت کلیک کنید...] system designed by DeviceVM Company. At this time it is shipped only with mainboards, notebooks and nettops from Asus, although other manufacturers start joining the initiative. I used to believe that Express Gate system was only available on high-end mainboards, where it is preinstalled into integrated flash-memory. However, it turned out that it could be also used on Asus P5QL-E, however, first it needs to be installed onto the system hard drive, USB-HDD or USB Flash Drive from the bundled DVD disk or downloaded from the Asus web-site. ![]() ![]() [فقط کاربران سایت قادر به دیدن لینک ها هستند. برای عضویت کلیک کنید...] Small configuration panel will help you set date and time, select the language and keyboard layout (it supports many languages), change the location of the startup panel, confirm network settings, change the theme, screen resolutions and sound volume.[فقط کاربران سایت قادر به دیدن لینک ها هستند. برای عضویت کلیک کنید...] Now you can use the browser based on Mozilla FireFox…
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… play online games of different genres…
[فقط کاربران سایت قادر به دیدن لینک ها هستند. برای عضویت کلیک کنید...] … launch a slide show from pictures and photographs…[فقط کاربران سایت قادر به دیدن لینک ها هستند. برای عضویت کلیک کنید...] … send a few messages to friends using multi-protocol Pidgin client…[فقط کاربران سایت قادر به دیدن لینک ها هستند. برای عضویت کلیک کنید...] … or connect using Skype.[فقط کاربران سایت قادر به دیدن لینک ها هستند. برای عضویت کلیک کنید...] There is even a File Manager supporting multi-window mode. You can guess its origin from the way the icons look: it definitely comes from Gnome:[فقط کاربران سایت قادر به دیدن لینک ها هستند. برای عضویت کلیک کنید...] Of course, everything we mentioned above is just a part of rich functionality available to you. With Internet access you can check your e-mail using web-interface, watch videos or listen to music. It was really frustrating to see no video player among preinstalled applications offered by Asus Express Gate, since it used to be part of the Splashtop system used as a basis for this OS.[فقط کاربران سایت قادر به دیدن لینک ها هستند. برای عضویت کلیک کنید...] Unfortunately, there are still a lot of limitations and faults that prevent Asus Express Gate from being widely used. You can install this system onto a SATA HDD[فقط کاربران سایت قادر به دیدن لینک ها هستند. برای عضویت کلیک کنید...][فقط کاربران سایت قادر به دیدن لینک ها هستند. برای عضویت کلیک کنید...]ent that the limited functionality of Asus Express Gate will not let it fully replace any base operating system. At the same time I wouldn’t say that this system is totally useless. Why would you boot the bulky default OS if all you need to do is just send an IM to a friend, look through the current news headlines, check your e-mail or the weather forecast for the night? Thanks to almost momentarily loading, Express Gate is an excellent alternative at least until we don’t have internet access in refrigerators, TVs and hallway mirrors
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We tested Asus P5QL-E mainboard in an open testbed with the following hardware and software components:
We decided to start with relatively low frequency of only 450MHz, but the mainboard refused to boot. After a while we found out that the board would only boot at 430MHz FSB. Even without any voltage increase our processor can overclock to 450MHz bus frequency, so we returned its multiplier to the nominal x9. The board could boot the OS, but refused to reboot. We couldn’t reach stability even at 425MHz FSB, but at 420MHz the system was fully stable and passed all the tests. ![]() It was pretty disappointing, but we could only work with what we had at our disposal. Now we have to try increasing the memory frequency that so far has been working at very low frequency of 840MHz. I would like to remind you that our DDR2 Corsair Dominator TWIN2X2048-9136C5D memory modules can theoretically work at 1142MHz with 5-5-5-15 timings and 2.1V voltage setting. The actual values are usually a little lower, so I wasn’t surprised with instability at 1119MHz. The system refused to start at all at 1053MHz memory frequency, which could also happen because of “inconvenient” dividers. However, even when we lowered the memory frequency to 1009MHz – an absolutely real and attainable value – we still couldn’t achieve stability. So, we had to go back to where we came from: 840MHz. Unfortunately, the board works with the memory as poorly as it overclocks CPUs. Let’s try optimizing the memory performance at least a little bit to achieve higher speeds. First let’s lower the timings from 5-5-5-15 to 4-4-4-12. It worked. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Now we should compare the performance on mainboards built on two different chipsets. We are going to compare the performance of our Asus P5QL-E against that of Gigabyte GA-EP45-DQ6 mainboard. Of course, this is far not a standard Intel P45 Express based solution, but it overclocks processors very well, and works with DDR2 memory, too.
As far as we know, systems based on Intel P45 Express and Intel P43 Express and otherwise alike perform identically in nominal mode. However, we have come across situations when one of the equally performing systems would fall far behind the other during overclocking. We already know that Intel P43 Express based board is hopelessly behind the rival in processor and memory overclocking. But will it also be slower during identical overclocking? Since we have to take the potential of Asus P5QL-E mainboard as a starting point, we overclocked our dual-core Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 processor to 415MHz FSB, i.e. to 3735MHz. The memory was working at 830MHz with 4-4-4-12 timings. Performance Level was set to 8. We tried synchronizing all other additional memory timings, however, some settings still differed and, surprisingly, not in Gigabyte GA-EP45-DQ6’s favor. Looks like this as well as numerous memory performance optimizations made in the mainboard BIOS were the reasons why Asus P5QL-E outperformed its competitor in almost all tests: ![]()
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Conclusion
I have to admit that I personally wasn’t very happy about Asus P5QL-E mainboard. However, you absolutely have to disregard my subjective opinion here. Try to be unbiased about this board: I am frustrated, because I feel deceived. I was misled by Asus P5QL-E mainboard, its excellent technical specifications and outstanding BIOS functionality. It costs less than $130, but looks worth $260, or at least $200. Of course, I expected from it the same I would from any Intel P45 Express based mainboard, having forgotten that it was based on Intel P43 Express and not knowing that they have dramatically different overclocking potential. That is why I wasted too much time trying to get it to work at high bus frequencies and then at high memory frequencies. That and only that is the reason why I am unhappy. You, on the other hand, may look at it from a completely different prospective. In fact, Asus P5QL-E has very few objective drawbacks, which we have already mentioned in our review. They are not very serious, by the way, and have been caused mostly by smaller dimensions of the PCB. However, despite the lack of available PCB space, Asus engineers managed to fit in all the necessary controllers, so from the functional standpoint Asus P5QL-E is as powerful as any Intel P45 Express based solution out there. The next thing: poor CPU and memory overclocking potential. It is a serious drawback. We couldn’t overclock any of our test processors. Besides, our super-fast DDR2 9136 memory was working almost as regular DDR2 6400. But remember the unannounced rule: inexpensive mainboards for inexpensive processors. Knowing what this mainboard is actually capable of, you can easily find a suitable processor for it that will have a high clock frequency multiplier, for example, a CPU from Intel Pentium Dual-Core or Intel Core 2 Duo E7xxx family. Asus P5QL-E functionality will be more than enough for their successful overclocking. Besides, you will not need to spend a ton on super-fact memory: just go with the regular DDR2 800 instead of highly overclockable and therefore expensive elite modules. We won’t lose anything here, as we have just seen, Asus P5QL-E will not lose to any other mainboard. However, we will be able to use the money saved on mainboard, CPU and memory for a faster graphics card, larger hard drive or anything else we need. So, objectively, Asus P5QL-E is an excellent choice for users who want to ensure their investment is worth it. Although it still cannot compare against solutions on Intel P45 Express.
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